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Opening the floodgates? Modelling spillovers from flood insurance protection gaps to UK mortgages – Bank Underground


Will Banks and Kemal Erçevik

When extreme weather hits, households typically turn to insurers to cushion the financial blow. But rising temperatures and greater exposure in high-risk areas could test the insurance sector’s capacity to absorb such losses. As the Financial Policy Committee has highlighted, climate change could create insurance protection gaps, leaving households vulnerable and shifting risks across the financial system. We have built a model to estimate potential protection gaps, finding that – under conservative assumptions – the share of UK mortgagors uninsured could increase from 5% today to around 7%–10% in 2050, or up to 16% following a severe flood event. While this would have substantial welfare implications, our model suggests the aggregate impact on lenders would be small compared to previous financial crises.

How might insurance protection gaps arise?

In the UK, most mortgagors have combined buildings and contents insurance covering flooding. That’s in part due to Flood Re, which subsidises insurance for high flood-risk households.

But that could change as temperatures rise. Under a very conservative emissions pathway scenario – representative concentration pathway 8.5 – floods are likely to become significantly more frequent and severe.

Alongside the planned end of Flood Re in 2039, this could push up insurance costs and reduce coverage. Imperfect information or limited appetite to underwrite the highest risks could lead insurers to withdraw from certain areas – as seen in California following recent wildfires.

Lower insurance coverage could lead risks to shift across the economy and financial system. House prices could fall if potential buyers start to factor in higher insurance costs. Banks could face higher losses on mortgages as collateral values fall, or if borrowers become more likely to default due to higher premia or uninsured flood damages. We have built a model which captures these dynamics in a stylised way (Figure A).


Figure A: A stylised figure of our insurance protection gaps model


First, we combine a six-digit postcode-level hazard exposure vulnerability model based on UK flood risk estimates (covering river, surface water, and coastal flooding) with an insurance pricing model and borrower-level data on mortgages and incomes. Then, we estimate expected flood losses and home insurance premia. We plug this into our existing scenario analysis toolkits to translate higher premia into house price and credit risk impacts.

As with all climate and insurance models, the results depend on many judgement calls. We use a stylised set of hazard models and a severe long-term climate scenario which is subject to deep uncertainty. While the model is well-calibrated to the UK financial system, the insurance premium, house price, and stress-testing models we use are illustrative, not definitive. So, the estimates here should be treated as indicative.

We use the model to answer three key questions.

1) How big might insurance protection gaps become?

In our modelled 2025 scenario, 95% of mortgagors have building and contents insurance and we assign each household an insurance premium, averaging around £430 per year (aqua bar in Chart 1). By 2050, we assume Flood Re ends and flood risk rises. We conservatively assume that insurers no longer cover previously subsidised properties, and that mortgagors stop paying for insurance if the premium increases above a threshold share of their income.

This leads the protection gap to as much as double, from 5% today to 6.8-10.2% in 2050 – not far from insurers’ 2021 estimates. This could leave as many as 910,000 mortgagors without flood insurance (orange bar).

That 6.8%–10.2% gap assumes insurers have perfect information about increases in flood risk. But the uncertainty and complexity in modelling risks at the property level mean information is typically imperfect, and therefore extreme events often lead to updated perceptions of hazard risk and higher premia. To capture this, we simulate an illustrative 1-in-100 flood year under RCP8.5 and assume that premia increase rapidly for those houses flooded. In that scenario, the protection gap increases substantially to around 1.39 million mortgagors (15.7%) in 2050 (purple bar).


Chart 1: Estimates of the mortgagor insurance protection gap

Note: Under scenario RCP8.5. Sample of 6.85 million mortgages has been upscaled to 8.8 million to reflect the whole UK mortgage market. Mortgage stock as of end-2024. Flood Re assumed to end in 2039. Estimates are subject to substantial uncertainty. ‘Uninsured’ defined as any properties for which insurance is estimated to be unaffordable (ie above a certain percentage of gross income, calibrated for each income decile using ONS Living Costs and Food Survey data) or unavailable. Aqua bar shows the approximate current coverage gap. Orange bar shows range of gap estimates under higher climate risk (RCP8.5 2050), no Flood Re and various risk reflective pricing models. Purple bar reflects houses uninsured after a 1-in-100 flood year leads to high markups in insurance premia for those houses flooded.

Sources: FCA Product Sales Data, Mitiga, RiskLayer, ONS Living Costs and Food Survey and Bank staff calculations. Full sources are available upon request.


Some assumptions we make are conservative – for example, that households’ willingness to pay for insurance is fixed over time, even as flood risk increases. But in other ways, we could be understating the risks. The hazard model we use is highly uncertain, and does not capture non-linearities or tipping points in the earth system, and we only capture the impact of flooding, not other hazards like windstorms or subsidence.

Either way, increases in flood risk under climate change could leave an increasing number of mortgagors uninsured against the negative impacts of extreme weather events. Notably, mortgagors without adequate insurance may find it harder to remortgage, particularly if lenders view uninsured properties as higher risk – further amplifying financial vulnerability in affected areas.

2) What could that mean for house prices?

Protection gaps could have a range of substantial social and economic impacts – particularly for households left uninsured. We focus on their financial impacts, asking if related house price falls could be large enough to disrupt the provision of vital services to UK households and businesses.

Building on previous Bank work, we model three channels through which house prices are discounted: higher expected insurance premia (in net present value terms); estimated unaffordability/unavailability of insurance, and expected flood damages for uninsured homes.

In aggregate, the house price falls in our model are small compared to those seen in previous financial crises, at around 1%–3% in our central case, or 3%–5% following an extreme weather event. This is much lower than the year-on-year fall of 15.6% seen after the global financial crisis, or the 28% assumed in the 2025 Bank Capital Stress Test scenario.

But national averages mask large impacts in some regions: Chart 2 shows that as many as 18% of mortgaged properties could see a fall bigger than 10% following a severe flood event, and almost 3% could experience falls over 30% under conservative assumptions. These estimates fit with estimates the Bank published previously, but this model tests further sensitivities and scenarios.


Chart 2: Distribution of falls in house prices under different scenarios

Note: Under scenario RCP8.5. House price falls reflect the net present value of expected increases in insurance premia, discounts for estimated insurance unaffordability or unavailability, and the value of flood damages for uninsured properties. Orange bars are consistent with the 6.8%–10.2% protection gap in Chart 1, purple bars with the 15.7% gap. Ranges reflect different discounting and insurance pricing assumptions.

Sources: FCA Product Sales Data, Mitiga, RiskLayer, ONS Living Costs and Food Survey and Bank staff calculations. Full sources are available upon request.


3) Could these effects lead to losses for banks?

To explore spillovers from house price falls to banks, we use a simple stress testing model. We calculate current and stressed loan to value and debt-servicing ratios to capture the impact of lower house prices and higher household expenditures on the probability of default and loss given default of UK mortgages.

This model captures the direct impacts of insurance premia and lower house prices on affordability, but does not capture the indirect impacts of flooding on consumption, leverage, output or inflation. So, our analysis is partial.

Intuitively, increases in mortgage impairment rates are small relative to large macro stresses to which UK banks are stress tested, even under severe assumptions (Chart 3). This effect is not even across the country though – Chart 3 shows the impacts could be nearly four times the average in higher flood-risk regions.


Chart 3: Impact of different scenarios on two key measures of bank credit risk

Note: Under scenario RCP8.5. Expected impairment rates reflect changes in loss given default and probability of default due to changes in loan to value and debt-service ability ratios due to higher flooding and lower insurance coverage. Aqua diamonds reflect baseline expected impairment rates with no flood impacts. Orange bars correspond to the range of house price falls in the orange bars in Chart 2. Purple diamonds consistent with the top of the range of the purple bars in Chart 2. Green line is a weighted average of the purple diamonds. Gold line is based on the published results of the 2025 Bank Capital Stress Test. The hazard model we use suggests high flood risk in the North East and North West of England, though the relative distribution of risks differs between hazard model providers.

Sources: FCA Product Sales Data, Mitiga, RiskLayer, ONS Living Costs and Food Survey and Bank staff calculations. Full sources are available upon request.


Our benign aggregate result reflects three well-established features of the UK mortgage market:

  1. The large majority of UK mortgages on banks’ books have an loan to value ratio of below 70%, insulating mortgages from falls in house prices.
  2. UK flood insurance coverage is high, and pricing is affordable relative to many other countries.
  3. Flooding is a geographically bound risk driver, meaning large impacts even across large areas average out to smaller impacts at the national level.

That said if a severe flood event were to coincide with other stresses, it could amplify financial stability risks. Protection gaps could also pose risks to smaller lenders with portfolios concentrated in high-flood risk areas.

Conclusion and policy implications

Our model results suggest that UK mortgagor protection gaps are unlikely to threaten banking system solvency, but this is subject to many caveats. We only cover the existing stock of buildings, as we cannot capture the exposure or resilience of planned new builds. We do not yet capture increases in risk after 2050, or other key perils, assets (eg commercial real estate and non-mortgaged houses), or contagion channels (such as macro impacts).

Our results are relevant to financial regulators:

The results could also inform judgements by governments about the impacts of climate change, including costs to households from increased flood risk, the end of Flood Re, and the potential benefits of planning and adaptation measures to improve financial and physical resilience.

Flood protection gaps could substantially impact economic welfare. While our results suggest they may not threaten banking system resilience, they could have a range of negative consequences for affected households, as well as lenders exposed to high-risk areas, and wider economic growth. Given the relevance of protection gaps to many stakeholders, cross-industry collaboration will be needed to help prevent climate-related risks from spilling over to the wider financial system.


Will Banks and Kemal Erçevik work in the Bank’s Cross-cutting Strategy and Emerging Risks Division.

The authors are grateful to Howden Re (Rowan Douglas, Man Wai Cheung, Wes Hibbert, Tim Edwards, Dr Nidia Martinez and Naomi Price), RiskLayer (Professor James Daniell, Dr Bijan Khazai and Dr Andreas Schaefer) and Mitiga (Dr Alex Marti and Dr Foteini Baladima) who provided extensive insurance sector insights, flood hazard and other climate modelling for this work.

If you want to get in touch, please email us at bankunderground@bankofengland.co.uk or leave a comment below.

Comments will only appear once approved by a moderator, and are only published where a full name is supplied. Bank Underground is a blog for Bank of England staff to share views that challenge – or support – prevailing policy orthodoxies. The views expressed here are those of the authors, and are not necessarily those of the Bank of England, or its policy committees.

Amazon: Spend $40, Save $10 On Select Grocery Items


The Offer

Direct link to offer (our affiliate link)

  • Amazon is offering a $10 discount when you spend $40 on select items.

Our Verdict

Seems like a small selection but might be useful to some. Should stack with other Amazon discounts such as Shop with points. 

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IFC Advisors Adds $62M Position in Income-Focused CARY ETF


What happened

According to a Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filing dated May 4, 2026, IFC Advisors LLC initiated a new position in Angel Oak Income ETF (CARY 0.10%)  by acquiring 2,971,014 shares. The estimated transaction value, based on the mean unadjusted closing price for the quarter ended March 31, 2026, is $62.20 million. The quarter-end value of the stake reflects a $61.72 million increase, encompassing both share purchases and price movements.

What else to know

  • This is a new position for IFC Advisors LLC, representing 8.83% of the fund’s reportable U.S. equity assets under management after the trade.
  • Top holdings after the filing:
    • NYSEMKT:VTV: $114.95 million (16.4% of AUM)
    • NYSEMKT:MGK: $68.90 million (9.9% of AUM)
    • NYSEMKT:PREF: $51.38 million (7.4% of AUM)
    • NYSEMKT:VO: $37.65 million (5.4% of AUM)
    • NASDAQ:UYLD: $16.02 million (2.3% of AUM)
  • As of May 4, 2026, shares of Angel Oak Income ETF were priced at $20.79, up 1.1% over the past year, but underperformed the S&P 500 by 26 percentage points in that period.
  • The ETF’s annualized dividend yield stands at 5.98%.

ETF overview

Metric Value
Dividend yield 5.98%
Price (as of market close May 4, 2026) $20.79
1-year total return 6.91%

ETF snapshot

  • Investment strategy targets risk-adjusted income and price appreciation through a combination of top-down macro allocation and bottom-up credit selection within the fixed income universe.
  • Portfolio is primarily composed of residential and commercial mortgage-backed securities, asset-backed securities, and collateralized loan obligations, with active allocation across structured credit sectors.
  • Fund structure is an exchange-traded fund, providing daily liquidity and transparency, with a focus on delivering stable income to income-oriented investors.

Angel Oak Income ETF is a fixed-income ETF with a $1.01 billion market capitalization, focused on generating stable income and capital appreciation through diversified exposure to structured credit. The fund employs a disciplined strategy that combines macroeconomic analysis with rigorous credit selection, seeking relative value opportunities across mortgage-backed and asset-backed securities. With an annualized dividend yield of 5.98% and a one-year total return of 6.91%, the ETF aims to appeal to institutional and income-focused investors seeking differentiated fixed income exposure.

What this transaction means for investors

IFC Advisors’ new position in the Angel Oak Income ETF (CARY) stands out, given how different it is from its other top holdings.

ETFs like Vanguard Value Index Fund (VTV) and Vanguard Mega Cap Growth Index Fund (MGK) focus on large-cap stocks. CARY, on the other hand, focuses on structured credit, such as mortgage-backed and asset-backed securities. While investors tend to judge the other ETFs’ performance by their price growth, CARY is built to generate income through dividends. With a yield of nearly 6%, it offers a very different kind of return.

So, you can’t really compare CARY to the S&P 500 in terms of share price performance. The ETF’s share price has been roughly flat over the past year, while the S&P 500 is up more than 27%. But CARY isn’t meant to keep up with stocks in a strong market. It’s meant to provide a steady income.

Individual investors often have different goals from institutions like IFC, but one thing they usually have in common is the need for diversification. An ETF like CARY isn’t about chasing winners, and it’s not exciting. But if most of your portfolio is in stocks, it can smooth out the ups and downs.

Pamela Kock has positions in Vanguard Mid-Cap ETF. The Motley Fool has positions in and recommends Vanguard Mid-Cap ETF and Vanguard Value ETF. The Motley Fool has a disclosure policy.

US CMBS delinquency rate dips slightly in April even as large loans turn troubled


April also marked a break from the recent pattern that had seen non‑performing matured balloon loans dominate the newly delinquent list.

Of all loans that became delinquent during the month, 42% were classified as non‑performing matured balloons, while 40% were 30-days delinquent. The remainder were in foreclosure or real estate owned (REO). Across the newly delinquent universe, non‑performing matured balloon remained the single most common delinquency classification, in line with prior months.

At the property-type level, two of the five major sectors recorded rising delinquency rates in April while three posted declines.

Industrial saw a modest increase, with its delinquency rate rising 31 basis points to 0.96%. Trepp attributed that move largely to a single portfolio loan that went 30 days delinquent during the month. Multifamily delinquencies also moved higher, climbing 56 basis points to 7.71% and pushing above last month’s high-water mark. That increase was driven primarily by the two large multifamily loans in San Francisco and New York City that went 30 days delinquent.

On the downside, lodging recorded the largest improvement among the major property types. The sector’s delinquency rate fell 79 basis points to 6.52%, reversing an increase seen in March. Trepp noted that two large lodging loans shifted to “performing, matured balloon” status from non‑performing, helping to pull the overall lodging rate lower.

Elon Musk Settles Twitter Case With Securities And Exchange Commission


Billionaire investor and entrepreneur Elon Musk has settled an outstanding case with the Securities and Exchange Commission.  The enforcement action was in regard to Musk’s takeover of Twitter, now called X.

The allegation was that Musk delayed his disclosure of his purchases of Twitter shares, thereby violating notice rules.

According to multiple reports, the agreement carries a $1.5 million penalty.

According to reports, Musk passed the 5% holding hurdle of the then-public firm on March 14, 2022. The deadline for notifying the holders was March 24th, ten days later, but Musk did not file by that date.

Musk eventually filed the necessary form on April 4th, 2022, potentially saving many millions of dollars, as Twitter’s shares would have risen in value once Musk disclosed his interest in purchasing shares in the firm. On April 4th, 2022, shares of Twitter popped by 27%.

Musk was sued by the SEC in January 2025 for violating established rules.

Musk eventually purchased Twitter and took it private for $44 billion, or $54.20 per share in cash. Before the deal was revealed, Twitter was valued at around $41 billion.

xAI acquired X for  $33 billion in equity in March 2025. The combined firm is far different today than it was when Musk purchased it, a move described as saving free speech due to the extreme bias by top management at Twitter.

The $1.5 million is a pittance for Musk, who is the wealthiest person on the planet.

At the same time, it is believed that X has yet to cross the profitability threshold.

 

 



Best High-Yield Savings Rates for May 4, 2026: Up to 5%


High-yield savings account rates finally saw their first major dips of 2026 – with another group of major banks reducing rates last week.

As of May 4, 2026, some online banks are still offering interest rates up to 5.00% APY, but these top APYs are usually limited by deposit size. This is still much better than the average of 0.38% APY, according to the FDIC.

Banks and credit unions are constantly adjusting their annual percentage yields (APYs) as markets react to Federal Reserve policy and inflation data, so staying up to date can make a real difference. Here’s where the best savings rates stand today — and what you should know before moving your money.

💰 Today’s Best Savings Rates At a Glance

Here are the best bank and credit union savings accounts rates today:

Bank or Credit Union

Top APY

Balance Requirement

Varo

5.00%

On the first $5,000

Consumers Credit Union

5.00%

On the first $10,000

Pibank

4.40%

$0

Axos Bank

4.21%

$0

CIT Bank

4.10%

$2,500

1. Varo – Varo is a bank that offers up to 5.00% APY on the first $5,000 with qualifying direct deposits. Read our full Varo review.

2. Consumers Credit Union – CCU offers up to 5.00% APY on your checking account for the first $10,000. The requirements to earn are tiered. Read our full Consumers Credit Union Review.

3. PiBank – PiBank is the online brand of Intercredit Bank, N.A and offers 4.40% APY with no monthly maintenance fees and no minimum balance requirements. However, lots of consumers complain about only being allow to withdraw via wire transfer. Read our full Pibank review.

4. Axos Bank – Axos ONE Savings offers a boosted rate of 4.21% when you receive qualifying monthly direct deposits totaling at least $1,500 and maintain an average daily balance of $1,500 in your Axos ONE® Checking account. Read our full Axos Bank review.

5. CIT Bank – CIT Platinum Savings a two-tiered savings account. 

Open an account with promo code CITBoost and you’ll earn 4.10% APY* on balances of $5,000 or more for the first six months* — that’s 10x the national average savings rate.

After 6 months, you’ll return to the regular rate of 3.75% APY* with a $5,000 minimum balance. Otherwise you’ll earn 0.25% APY. See website for full details. Read our full CIT Bank review.

You can find a full list of the best high yield savings accounts here >>

How High Yield Savings Accounts Work And Why Rates Matter?

High-yield savings accounts function just like traditional savings accounts, but they pay a much higher annual percentage yield (APY) — often 10 to 15 times more. You can see how these rates compare to the savings rates at the 10 largest banks in America – and these rates put them to shame.

“More major banks dropped their savings rates last week, but the top yielding accounts have remained steady.” – Robert Farrington

The banks and credit unions on this list typically always have above-average rates, so even if the Federal Reserve lowers rates and these accounts lower their rates, you’ll still be head. 

For example, a $10,000 balance earning 4.00% APY will generate about $400 in interest per year, compared with less than $20 at a big-bank rate of 0.20%. That gap makes it worth tracking rate changes regularly and switching institutions if your current bank stops staying competitive.

However, we expect more rates to dip below that 4.00% level in the coming weeks.

What To Know Before Opening An Account

Before opening a new account, review the key details that determine how much you’ll earn — and how easily you can access your funds.

  • Watch For Intro Or Promo Rates: APYs can rise or fall at any time. But a strong introductory rate doesn’t guarantee long-term performance. None of the rates listed here are introductory, but some referral codes may only be temporary rates.
  • Transfer Limits: Federal rules no longer cap savings withdrawals at six per month, but many banks still impose limits.
  • Safety: Confirm that the institution is FDIC- or NCUA-insured, which protects up to $250,000 per depositor, per bank or credit union.
  • Access: Many top-yield accounts are online-only. Make sure you can deposit via mobile app and link external accounts for easy transfers.

These details help you separate truly high-performing savings options from accounts that look appealing but may include hidden limitations or slower rate adjustments.

How We Track And Verify Rates

At The College Investor, our goal is to help you make smart, confident decisions about your money. To create this list, our editorial team reviews savings account rates daily across more than 50 banks, credit unions, and fintechs. We verify data using each institution’s official website, rate disclosures, and regulatory filings.

Only accounts available to U.S. consumers and insured by the FDIC or NCUA are included.

Our coverage is independent and editorially driven – we never rank accounts based on compensation. While we may earn a referral fee when you open an account through certain links, this does not influence our recommendations or reviews. Our opinions are our own, based on a consistent evaluation of usability, fees, yields, and customer experience.

FAQs

How often do savings account rates change?

Banks can adjust rates daily or weekly based on market conditions.

Are online banks safe?

Yes — as long as they’re FDIC-insured. Verify coverage on the FDIC’s BankFind site.

Is interest on savings accounts taxable?

Yes. You’ll receive a 1099-INT if you earn $10 or more in interest.

Should I move my money if rates drop?

It depends on the difference in APY and your transfer limits, and frequent rate chasing can reduce returns if transfers take time.

Disclosures

CIT Bank

For complete list of account details and fees, see our
Personal Account disclosures.

* Platinum Savings is a tiered interest rate account. Interest is paid on the entire account balance based on the interest rate and APY in effect that day for the balance tier associated with the end-of-day account balance. APYs — Annual Percentage Yields are accurate as of January 9, 2026: 0.25% APY on balances of $0.01 to $4,999.99; 3.75% APY on balances of $5,000.00 or more. Interest Rates for the Platinum Savings account are variable and may change at any time without notice. The minimum to open a Platinum Savings account is $100.

* Platinum Savings APY Boost Promotion Terms and Conditions

This is a limited time offer available to New and Existing customers who meet the Platinum Savings APY Boost promotion criteria.

Accounts enrolled in the Platinum Savings Annual Percentage Yield (APY) Boost promotion will receive a 0.35% APY boost on the Platinum Savings current standard APY tiers for 6 months following the opening of a new account or when an existing Platinum Savings account is enrolled in the promotion. The Platinum Savings APY boost will be applied on account balances up to $9,999,999.00. Account balances above $9,999,999.00 will earn the standard APY. If the standard-published APY should change during the promotion period, the APY boost will move with it, offering an account APY above the standard rate.

The Promotion begins on February 13, 2026, and ends April 13, 2026. Customers enrolled in the promotion prior to the end date will receive the APY boost for the 6-month period outlined in the terms and conditions.

The promotion can end at any time without notice.

 

Editor: Colin Graves

Reviewed by: Richelle Hawley

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Udio admits to scraping YouTube audio for AI training in answer to Sony Music lawsuit


AI music startup Udio has denied Sony Music Entertainment’s copyright infringement claims while acknowledging that it used audio scraped from YouTube to train its models.

In a filing with the US District Court for the Southern District of New York on Wednesday (April 29), which you can read here, Udio answered Sony Music’s amended complaint, which also names Arista Music and Arista Records as plaintiffs.

Udio admitted that its models were built by feeding the system with “a vast amount of different kinds of sound recordings” gathered from publicly available sources, from which the models derived “a complex collection of statistical insights about the auditory characteristics of those recordings.”

The startup also acknowledged generating music files within seconds of receiving a user prompt, and that it charges users monthly fees to use its product and produce digital files.

“Udio admits that its product was originally free to users, with a limit of 600 music files per month. Udio further admits that on May 8, 2024, Udio introduced subscription tiers, with options that range from $10 a month for 1,200 credits (which equate to 1,200 30-second clips per month), to $30 a month for 4,800 credits (which equates to 4,800 30-second clips per month),” according to the filing.

“Udio admits that it obtained audio data from YouTube for use as training data.”

Udio’s answer to amended complaint

On the YouTube ripping allegations, Udio’s response was direct: “Udio admits that it obtained audio data from YouTube for use as training data,” adding that “it acquired some of its training data by utilizing YT-DLP.”

Major record labels sued Udio and its rival Suno in June 2024. In August 2024, Udio and Suno pretty much admitted that they used copyrighted recordings from the recording companies that sued them. However, they claimed that the use of copyrighted materials – owned by Sony Music Group, Universal Music Group and Warner Music Group – falls under the “fair use” exemption to US copyright law.

While Universal Music and Warner Music Group dropped their lawsuits against Udio after reaching settlements in October and in November, respectively, the Sony Music lawsuit against Udio remains.

Before UMG and Warner Music dropped their lawsuits, the labels amended their complaint in September 2025 to include claims that Udio “illegally scraped” YouTube videos in order to collect content on which to train its AI models.

Udio then filed a motion to dismiss the labels’ charge of illegal scraping of YouTube videos in October 2025, arguing that US copyright law doesn’t actually criminalize downloading of videos that are available to the public.

The YouTube scraping claims are “a gambit to try to evade application of the fair use doctrine,” lawyers for Udio wrote in the motion, which can be read in full here.

The record labels then shot back at Udio’s statement, saying the company “mischaracterizes” the labels’ legal arguments “and the legal landscape.”

The amended complaint in October (read here) alleged in paragraph 122 that Udio violated copyright laws by circumventing technological measures implemented by YouTube that controlled access to copyrighted works. In its response filed last week, Udio said “The allegations in this paragraph contain legal conclusions to which no response is required.”

“To the extent a response is required, Udio lacks knowledge or information sufficient to admit or deny the allegations of this paragraph concerning Plaintiffs’ copyrighted sound recordings, and on that basis denies those allegations. Udio admits that it obtained audio data from YouTube for use as training data, but otherwise denies any remaining allegations of this paragraph.”

Udio reaffirmed its “fair use” argument after the labels including Sony in October said “Udio cannot avoid liability for its willful copyright infringement by claiming fair use.”

“Udio admits that it obtained audio data from YouTube for use as training data, but otherwise denies any remaining allegations of this paragraph.”

Udio’s answer to amended complaint

In its latest response, Udio said: “To the extent there is copying of copyrightable expression, that copying constitutes fair use pursuant to 17 U.S.C. § 107. Udio’s AI tool uses a back-end technological process, invisible to the public, in the service of creating an ultimately non-infringing new product. This is quintessential fair use.”

Udio accused Sony of copyright misuse, arguing: “Plaintiffs have engaged in anticompetitive activities that extend an unlawful monopoly over the production and commercialization of music.”

“Plaintiffs have engaged in anticompetitive activities that extend an unlawful monopoly over the production and commercialization of music.”

Udio’s answer to amended complaint

The AI company’s response comes weeks after Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein rejected its motion to dismiss Sony’s Digital Millennium Copyright Act circumvention claim, finding Sony had “plausibly allege[d] that YouTube employs technological measures that regulate access to its content and that Defendant circumvented them,” according to the April 15 order, which you can read here.

However, Judge Hellerstein said whether YouTube’s measures ultimately constitute access controls “requires a greater factual record than the pleadings contain.” The judge left the door open for Udio to renew its arguments “after a factual record is developed.”

Udio is asking the court to dismiss all claims with prejudice.

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