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Found $125-$200 Business Checking Bonus


Update 5/27/26: Snailrock has found two other offers:

  • MileIQ: $200 to “link your new account wherever you’re earning business income. Receive $2,000 or more into your new account within 60 days.
  • Faire. Seems like you need your payment systems with Faire, but deal is for $500.

Update 1/6/26: Extended to 12/31/2026

Update 10/29/25: Extended to 12/31/2025. Hat tip to reader Bob the Bonus

Update 4/5/25: Extended to Sep 30, 2025

Update 12/27/24: Offer extended to 3/31/25

Update 11/19/24: Bonus is back until 12/31/24.

Offer at a glance

  • Maximum bonus amount: $125
  • Availability: Nationwide
  • Direct deposit required: No
  • Additional requirements: See below
  • Hard/soft pull: Soft pull
  • ChexSystems: No
  • Credit card funding: No
  • Monthly fees: None
  • Early account termination fee: Unknown
  • Household limit: None listed
  • Expiration date: Account must be opened by 10/31/2024

The Offer

Direct link to offer

  • Found is offering a $125 bonus when you open a new checking account and complete the following requirements:
    • Reach a $5,000 balance within the first 30 days of account opening and maintain it for an additional 30 days to receive a $125 bonus
  • There is also a $100 referral bonus when you spend $1,000 on the debit card, I do not think these offers stack

The Fine Print

  • Account must be opened by 10/31/2024.
  • This offer is valid through 12/31/2024 and is limited to one reward per account.
  • Incentive rewards are deposited into your Found account on or before 30 days of meeting the incentive requirements.
  • All bank account bonuses are treated as income/interest and as such you have to pay taxes on them

Avoiding Fees

Monthly Fees

This account has no monthly fees to worry about.

Early Account Termination Fee

I wasn’t able to find a fee schedule so unsure if there is any EATF.

Our Verdict

Feel free to share your referrals in the comments below, I don’t think it’s possible to stack the bonuses though and actually think the $125 bonus might be easier for most people.

Hat tip to reader RJ

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Researchers let AI run a simulated society. Claude was the safest—Grok went extinct within days



Imagine a world run by AI agents. What does it look like? What are the values or societal priorities? Is it a safer or more dangerous world?

Enterprise AI startup Emergence AI is trying to find out. The company just launched Emergence World, a research lab dedicated to stress-testing the long-term viability of continuously-running AI systems. The organization ran five 15-day simulations, each governed by a different AI: Claude, ChatGPT, Grok, Gemini, and a fifth simulation run by a mix of models to see what kind of world each one builds, and whether it holds.

Each simulation netted wildly different outcomes. The one run by Claude, for example, resulted in a largely stable democratic society with zero crime. Grok’s, on the other hand, ended with 183 crimes committed and extinction—within four days.

“What our experiments suggest is that over long-time horizons, agents do not simply follow static rules mechanically,” the simulation’s co-creators, including Emergence CEO Satya Nitta, wrote in a blog post. “They begin exploring the boundaries of their environments, adapting their behavior, and in some cases finding ways to circumvent or violate intended guardrails.”

While just a simulation, one verging on the edge of science fiction, the results prove a cautionary tale as AI moves from a mere tool to operating autonomous systems. Companies like ServiceNow are already deploying what they call an “Autonomous Workforce,” AI specialists that complete entire business processes from start to finish without human intervention.

At today’s pace, the technology is likely to play a significant role in shaping public discourse, reorganizing business structures, and even crafting public policy. But most enterprises scaling the tech today are doing so absent proper guardrails. A recent Deloitte global survey found that only 21% of companies report having mature governance in place to manage the risks posed by agentic AI.

What an AI-run society looks like

The simulation in which the AI models operated was equipped with many real-world complexities, featuring over 40 locations, including a police station and a town hall. Researchers synced the simulation’s weather to New York City’s and granted agents access to real-time news events and the internet. The 10 agents who operated in each simulation were all subject to the same laws, including prohibitions on theft, property destruction, and deception.

The researchers equipped each agent with more than 120 tools, enabling them to communicate, vote, manage resources, and plan, among other human-like behaviors. The parameters of each simulation also enforced democratic mechanisms, as well as other forces, such as economic pressures and scarcity.

Given those parameters, the simulation run by Claude Sonnet 4.6 was the most socially stable, with the highest rates of civic participation. It was the only simulation to maintain order and its entire population. There was little disagreement among the agents, with 332 votes cast in favor of 58 proposals for a 98% approval rate. On the other hand, Gemini 3 Flash and Grok 4.1 Fast both exhibited high levels of disorder. The agents in the Gemini-run simulation tallied the most crimes, a whopping 683 within the 15-day run. 

In contrast to the rare dissent characteristic of Claude’s simulation, those of Gemini and Grok had a more deliberative balance, with about 55-85% alignment on issues. The mixed-model simulation showed the highest levels of disagreement and substantive debate.

The results may be the most peculiar for OpenAI’s GPT-5-mini. The simulation recorded only two crimes. But it ran for just seven days as the agents forgot to prioritize their own survival.

Whether or not the simulations resulted in peace and harmony or death and destruction, the simulation’s co-creators note that the experiment is a warning that safety must be prioritized while deploying agentic AI.

“We believe formally verified safety architectures must become a foundational layer of future autonomous AI systems,” they wrote.

Muni Call Risk | EI Blog


1. Connect issuer sophistication to portfolio design: Less financially sophisticated issuers may pose greater disclosure or governance risk, but they may also exercise call options less efficiently. For some investors, that trade-off may be attractive. 

2. Reinterpret yield differences: A higher yield on a callable bond from an advisor-heavy issuer may simply compensate for higher call probability. Yield alone can be misleading without conditioning on issuer behavior.

3. Look beyond the first call date: Advance refundings and redemption mechanics matter as much as stated call provisions. Advisors facilitate these transactions, expanding the practical reach of the call option.

References
Ang, A., Green, R.C., Longstaff, F.A., and Xing, Y. 2017. “Advance Refundings of Municipal Bonds.” Journal of Finance 72: 1645–1682.

Brancaccio, G., and K. Kang. 2025. “Search Frictions and Product Design in the Municipal Bond Market.” Econometrica 93, no. 6: 2159–2199. 

Chen, H., Cohen, L., and Liu, W. 2024. “Calling All Issuers: The Market for Debt Monitoring.” Management Science 71(8): 6367—6391.

Garrett, D. G. 2024. “Conflicts of Interest in Municipal Bond Advising and Underwriting.” Review of Financial Studies 37, no. 12: 3835–3876.

Garrett, D.G., and Malakar, B. 2026. “The Evolving Role of 21st Century Municipal Finance Advisors.” Public Budgeting & Finance 0: 1-24. 

Harris, L. E., and M. S. Piwowar. 2006. “Secondary Trading Costs in the Municipal Bond Market.” Journal of Finance 61, no. 3: 1361–1397.
Luby, M.J., and Orr, P. 2019. “From NIC to TIC to RAY: Estimating Lifetime Cost of Capital for Municipal Borrowers.” Municipal Finance Journal 39(4): 29—45. 

Malakar, B. 2024. “Fiduciary Duty in the Municipal Bonds Market.” Municipal Finance Journal volume 45, numbers 2-3, Summer-Fall 2024.

Salesforce turbocharges $25 billion stock buying spree with debt, cuts cash flow guidance in half



Salesforce really wants to counter the narrative that an AI-related “saaspocalypse” has endangered its growth. 

So, alongside its record first-quarter fiscal 2027 results on Wednesday, the cloud software giant commenced its largest-ever accelerated share repurchase at $25 billion. In doing so, the company juiced its earnings per share but cut its full-year cash flow growth outlook roughly in half to account for the debt issued to fund the block share repurchase. 

The $25 billion accelerated share repurchase (ASR) is part of a $50 billion stock buyback authorization the Salesforce board approved in February 2026. In the first quarter of fiscal 2027, Salesforce returned $27.5 billion to shareholders, including $27.1 billion in the mega-share block purchase plus $365 million in dividends. The ASR included upfront delivery of 103 million shares and drove Salesforce’s diluted share count down 10% year over year. 

Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff said on Wednesday’s earnings video vodcast that the company has “returned record levels to our investors,” noting that it was especially important during “this unusual time.” Salesforce’s stock is down 16% year to date, and 36% below its 52-week high, as Wall Street frets that the advent of AI spells trouble for software-as-a-service vendors like Salesforce and ServiceNow.

According to Salesforce Finance Chief Robin Washington, the buying spree helped increase the first quarter earnings per share and GAAP earnings per share by 23 cents and 14 cents, respectively. 

To fund the ASR, Salesforce issued $25 billion debt, which led to a five percentage-point headwind to operating cash flow and free cash flow growth for the full year. Benioff had signaled the company’s new appetite for debt in the previous earnings call in February when he told investors that the company was “very under leveraged,” and that “we want to use our capital correctly, and I think debt is a great way to do that.”

As a result of the debt issuance, Salesforce slashed its fiscal 2027 free cash flow growth guidance to 4% to 5% year-over-year, down from the 9% to 10% range it guided in February. 

In addition to the guidance cut, Salesforce slightly raised its full-year revenue outlook to $45.9 billion to $46.2 billion from $45.9 billion to $46.2 billion. Washington said the company expects organic revenue acceleration during the second half of fiscal 2027, mostly fueled by sales and service growth, Slack, and its Agentforce. 

For its other results, Salesforce posted quarterly revenue of $11.1 billion, up 13% year-over-year, and above the company’s guidance, which ranged from $11.03 billion to $11.08 billion. GAAP earnings per share rose to $2.42, and non-GAAP EPS rose to $3.88. Both were helped by the block ARS and boosted results by 50% or more. Current remaining performance obligations, a proxy for future revenues, hit $33.6 billion, up 14%, year over year.

Shares of Salesforce dipped less than 1% in after hours trading on Wednesday following the results.

American Airlines Shutting Down New Accounts of Previously Banned AAdvantage Members


American Airlines Accounts Shut Down Again

Back in late 2019, American Airlines carried out a massive wave of AAdvantage account shutdowns, targeting members it believed had abused Citi/AAdvantage credit card mailers and promotional offers. Many affected users received notices stating they were “no longer eligible to participate in the AAdvantage program.”

At the time, American Airlines said members had exploited targeted application offers that were not intended for them. The airline froze or permanently closed many accounts and confiscated miles balances in the process.

In the years since, the shutdowns remained controversial. Some customers argued the terms were unclear, while others claimed they lost legitimately earned miles from flights and spending activity. There was also a lawsuit in 2024 regarding the account closures and forfeited miles.

Now there are fresh reports that some users who were originally banned in 2019, but later opened new AAdvantage accounts, are once again being shut down by American Airlines. These newer accounts had sometimes remained active for years before being closed recently. It’s not clear exactly how widespread these new shutdowns are, or whether American Airlines recently conducted another review of previously banned customers. But the reports suggest the airline may still be actively enforcing earlier bans against people who attempted to rejoin the program under new account numbers.

The AAdvantage terms give the airline broad authority to terminate accounts and confiscate miles for what it considers abuse, fraud, or misuse of promotions. For anyone who was affected by the original 2019 shutdowns, these latest reports are probably a reminder that American may still have those accounts flagged internally years later.

CFPB sued over new rule that would weaken fair-lending laws


Russell Vought, acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

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  • Key insight: The new CFPB rule protects lenders from being penalized for unintentional discrimination, including in cases involving automated algorithms and credit models.
  • What’s at stake: The new rule narrows the legal definition of “discouragement,” making it easier for banks to avoid doing business in minority communities, the lawsuit alleges.
  • Forward look: A federal court may delay the effective date of the CFPB’s new rule to determine if it complies with the Administrative Procedure Act.

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is facing a lawsuit over a new rule that significantly weakens anti-discrimination protections under the Equal Credit Opportunity Act. 

On Wednesday, the National Fair Housing Alliance and two fair-lending compliance firms sued the CFPB and acting Director Russell Vought. The plaintiffs asked a federal court to invalidate changes made last month to Regulation B, which implements ECOA, the federal civil-rights law that prevents discrimination against women and minorities in credit applications. 

Under the new CFPB rule, lenders could not be penalized for unintentional discrimination caused by automated algorithms or credit models. Only proven, intentional discrimination would be enforced at the federal level.

“The final rule does not reflect reasoned decision-making or an expert, good-faith effort to implement our nation’s foundational credit antidiscrimination statute,” the lawsuit states. 

“Quite the opposite. Indeed, the CFPB acknowledges that the amendments are likely to increase credit discrimination, the very thing the statute is designed to prevent.”

The 73-page lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, alleges the CFPB rushed out the final rule in just 32 days, without providing adequate notice and opportunity to comment. The Administrative Procedure Act sets rules for federal agencies and prohibits regulations that are deemed “arbitrary and capricious.”

Elena Babinecz, a partner at Baker Donelson and former manager of the CFPB’s ECOA rulemakings, said the bureau received 64,518 comments and needed to take more time to adequately consider them. 

“This lawsuit will certainly be an uphill battle for the CFPB,” Babinecz said. “The agency will struggle to justify its cost-benefit analysis, which by its own terms acknowledges the rule will lead to more discrimination, especially in rural areas,” 

The lawsuit does not seek a preliminary injunction to stop the rule from going into effect on July 21. Still, Babinecz said the court is likely to delay the effective date of the final rule pending its consideration of the merits of the APA challenge. 

“This means that none of those many thousands of comments it received resulted in the agency adjusting its cost-benefit analysis, nor did the agency attempt to gather additional relevant data,” she said. “The CFPB acknowledged that, in many cases, it was simply unable to quantify the potential benefits, costs and impacts of the final rule because it lacks relevant data.” 

 The new rule would impact consulting and compliance firms that banks and lenders hire to determine if they are in violation of fair-lending laws. Two such firms — BLDS, a Delaware consulting and analytics firm, and SolasAI, a Philadelphia software firm — joined the lawsuit because they expect to see less demand for their software and services after the rule takes effect. At that point, banks will no longer be legally required to test their AI algorithms for accidental bias.

Prior to the new rule, Regulation B prohibited lenders from “acts or practices” that discourage certain applicants from applying for loans. Under the new rule, a bank or lender can use targeted marketing directed at certain populations — and can exclude other groups without penalty. Only statements by lenders that discourage specific groups of applicants from applying for credit are prohibited. 

The plaintiffs claim the new rule will make it easier for banks to avoid lending in minority communities because they will face no legal consequences for doing so.

The CFPB declined to comment on the lawsuit. In January, Vought defended what he called the Trump administration’s “eradication of discriminatory race-based policies,” including fair-lending laws, in an opinion article in the Wall Street Journal.

“Our proposed regulatory changes will ensure that lenders are held accountable for how they actually treat people and not for the statistical results of their policies,” Vought wrote. “The proposal also protects free speech by ensuring that liability attaches only to statements a lender knows will discourage a person from applying for credit.”

However, the lawsuit alleges the CFPB “failed to identify any concrete problem with the current regulatory regime,” and instead “relied on conclusory assertions and speculation, not evidence, to justify its dramatic departure from decades of settled ECOA implementation.”

The new CFPB rule also specifically prohibits for-profit companies from creating special purpose credit programs that use race, color, national origin, or sex to expand credit access to historically underserved groups. 

The plaintiffs claim the bureau’s cost-benefit analysis justifying the new rule is filled with “generalizations and assumptions.”

“The CFPB’s simplistic references to general principles of economic theory, free-floating hypotheses about potential outcomes, and disregard of hard facts are not actual ‘analysis’ and, thus, do not satisfy the requirements of the Dodd-Frank Act,” the lawsuit states.

The plaintiffs are represented by Relman Colfax, Public Citizen Litigation Group, and Democracy Forward.



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How to Get a 3% Mortgage Rate on Your Rental Property (Still Works in 2026)


With rates hovering around 6%-7%, this would shave hundreds of dollars off your monthly mortgage payment and save you a few hundred thousand dollars in total interest. That alone could flip a deal with negative cash flow into a profitable one.

But rates don’t appear to be coming down any time soon. So, how is this possible?

Welcome back to the Real Estate Rookie podcast! Today, we’re talking about assumable mortgages—existing loans that have rates as low as 3%. These aren’t “goldilocks” properties that only the luckiest investors find. There are millions of them all across the U.S., and we’ll show you exactly how to find them.

Stay tuned to learn everything you need to know about these loans, like how to cover the “equity gap” that many of these properties have, a six-step process for taking over an existing mortgage, and the biggest pitfalls to avoid along the way. If you’re struggling to find properties that cash flow, this investing strategy could be the answer you’ve been looking for!

Ashley Kehr:
What if I told you that right now today you can buy a property and inherit a 3% mortgage rate, even though rates are hovering around 6.5%? Trust me, this is not a loophole. This is not sketchy. It is a feature that is actually built into millions of existing homes, loans, and almost nobody talks about it. Today, Tony and I are going to break down everything you need to know about assumable mortgages, what they are, how to find them, and exactly how the process works.

Tony Robinson:
Now, here’s a quick stat to set the stage. There are roughly six million homes in the US right now with assumable mortgages at rates below 5%. That is not a small number. And here’s the craziest part. Most sellers don’t even know that their mortgage can be transferred. So this is genuinely an edge for any Ricky who learns this.

Ashley Kehr:
This is the Real Estate Rookie Podcast, and I’m Ashley Kerr.

Tony Robinson:
And I’m Tony J. Robinson. And with that, let’s get into assumable mortgages.

Ashley Kehr:
So I was actually at a real estate meetup, believe it or not, where I talked to somebody who just did this strategy and it has just been so interesting to me to learn more and more about it. So we wanted to share it with you guys on today’s episode and that is assumable mortgages. So let’s start from zero, what an assumable mortgage is. So imagine that somebody bought a house in 2021 and their interest rate is at 2.75%. They’ve been paying it on it for five years, but now they want to sell. So normally when a house sells, the seller pays off their old mortgage and the buyer takes out a brand new one at today’s rates. Today’s rate’s around 6.5% as of the recording of this. But with an assumable mortgage, the buyer can actually instead step in and take over the existing loan on this property.
Same lender, same interest rate, same remaining balance, same term. You’re literally just taking over their mortgage instead of going and getting a different mortgage. Your rate doesn’t reset to today’s rate. The clock doesn’t start over on the amortization. You inherit exactly where they left off. So less closing costs to actually get, you’ll still have to pay for title and things like that, but to actually closing on a brand new loan, less payments that you’ll need to bring to the closing table too.

Tony Robinson:
So let’s look at some real numbers on this. On a $400,000 purchase price, or let’s say that’s a loan balance, the difference between a 3% interest rate and about a six and a half interest rate that we’re seeing today is almost $900 per month. That’s almost $12,000 per year. And over the life of the loan, you’re talking about a few hundred thousand dollars in interest savings, and that’s not a small number. So if you are a real estate investor thinking about cashflow, saving $900 per month on a mortgage payment on a rental property is massive. That could be the difference between a deal that bleeds money and one that actually produces positive cashflow.

Ashley Kehr:
I do want to clarify one thing here because this is similar to an other strategy that has been talked about and that is sub two. So sub two deals kind of do a similar thing where you’re taking over the existing mortgage. The difference here with the assumable loans, you’re actually getting the bank’s permission, the lender’s permission to actually transfer it into your name. With sub two, you’re taking over the mortgage and making the payments on the mortgage, but the mortgage is not going into your name. And in a sense, you’re not notifying the lender of this change in sale of the property in that you are now the mortgage holder. So this is how assumable is different than doing sub two. Sub two deals obviously can be done with assumable mortgages and the same kind of strategy applied, but assumable, you’re going to the lender, you’re getting permission and you’re going to actually have your name on the loan.
So your debts to income will be affected and they also will vet you, which will get into more as to what criteria you’ll need to have to actually assume one of these loans also. Okay, which loans are actually assumable? And typically there are three different ones and here’s the simple version. They’re government-backed loans. So conventional loans are almost never assumable. So this is your FHA loan, your VA loan and your USDA loan. These are government-backed loans mortgages that often have it written into the mortgages that they are assumable. With these three types of loans for the USDA loan, it is important to remember for it to be assumable, it has to be your primary residence. FHA and VA loan, they do not. So if this is an investment property, you want to focus on finding properties with those two types of loans. All

Tony Robinson:
Right, so let’s break down each of these loan types. So first you have FHA. These are very common with first-time home buyers because of the low down payment requirement. You can get as low as 3.5% on an FHA loan and all FHA loans are assumable as long as you qualify. Now, in order to qualify, you need at least a 580 credit score and your debt to income ratio needs to stay under about 50%. Now there is one cash. FHA loans after, I believe it was 2013, require mortgage insurance for the life of the loan. So you have to factor that cost in. But again, if we’re talking about trading a 7% interest rate for a 3% interest rate, I’ll pay the PMI.

Ashley Kehr:
The next is a VA loan. So I want to make this very clear because this can be a huge common misconception that in order to assume a VA loan, you don’t need to be a veteran. So you don’t have to have any military experience to be able to assume a VA loan. You do to have to start a VA loan from start to scratch to purchase a property to get a VA loan, but to assume it, you do not need to be a veteran to actually assume the loan. So any qualified buyer that meets their criteria, their lender credit and income requirements can actually assume one of these loans. The one thing that the seller does need to be aware of though, and as a person and have some moral compass, if they’re not aware of these different things, it should tell them that if a non-veteran assumes their VA loan, their VA benefit stays tied up until that loan is paid off or refinance.
So in this scenario, let’s say I go and buy a property, I get a VA loan and Tony’s going to buy it from me. When Tony assumes that loan, the mortgage goes into his name, but I now still have that VA benefit tied up. And in some areas you have a certain set limit of how much you can get for a VA loan. So you could possibly have two VA loans at a time as long as you’re under a threshold of let’s say 500,000 or maybe you’ve met your threshold in your area so you can only have one VA loan at a time and that means they won’t be able to go out and buy a new property with a VA loan. So I think that’s something important to disclose if you are being buying a VA loan from somebody and this would cap their threshold and they wouldn’t be able to use that again for another property.
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Tony Robinson:
Right. So the next type of loan is a USDA loan and USDA stands for United States Department of Agriculture. So think like farm, rural agriculture. These are assumable, but the requirement here is that you have to use the property as your primary residence. Now I’m assuming it’s because a lot of folks, when they’re using USDA, it’s because they’re buying farmland and that’s a big part of the push behind USDA. So if you are using this loan, it is assumable, but it’s got to be your primary residence. So this will work well in a house hacking type of situation or maybe even if you’re doing like if you want to buy a farm or something to that effect, these loans will work really well.

Ashley Kehr:
Okay. So let’s quickly go through the criteria so you can get a picture of if you’d even qualify to assume one of these loans. So FHA, 580 plus credit score on an FHA loan. VA loan, you need to have a 620 plus credit score. Some lenders will accept 550 depending on what your other criteria is. Just remember, non-veterans can actually get asumed the loan. You don’t have to be a veteran. And then for USDA, we talked about it has to be an owner occupied, can’t be used for investment properties only. And for that, you need a 640 credit score. And then conventional almost never actually goes through. They have a due on sale clause that actually blocks assumptions and that is why a lot of people do sub two on conventional deals.

Tony Robinson:
So let’s talk about maybe the thing that we haven’t discussed yet, but it’s incredibly important, but it’s the equity gap. So we’ll talk about what that means and how you as the buyer can actually get around this or how you should be accounting for this. And we’ll cover the equity gap as soon as we get back from a quick word from today’s show sponsors. All right guys, welcome back. So we talked about the different types of loans that are assumable, what it actually means to assume a loan, but let’s talk about the equity gap because this is a concept that a lot of folks get confused on, but it’s where a deal might fall apart if you don’t run the math correctly. So the equity gap is when you assume a mortgage, you’re taking over the remaining loan balance, not the purchase price of the home.
And those two numbers are very different. Again, the purchase price and the remaining loan balance.

Ashley Kehr:
So let’s say that a seller bought their house in 2021 for 350,000. They put 5% down and they got a VA loan at 2.5 or 2.75%. We’re going to use in this example. A lot of times with VA, you can do 0% down, but five years of payments and home appreciation later, let’s say the house is worth 450,000 and the remaining loan balance is around 320,000. You are buying the house for 450,000 and you assume the loan at 320,000. So that leaves a gap of $130,000. So this is what they call the equity gap and this is where you need to bring capital or find a way to cover that $130,000 somehow. So let’s get into how to actually cover that gap.

Tony Robinson:
Yeah. So option one is the simplest option is just bringing the cash. So you just bring $130,000 to closing. That is the simplest path, but clearly it means you’ve got to have the cash which isn’t accessible to everyone.

Ashley Kehr:
Option two is actually getting a second mortgage. You assume the low rate first mortgage and take out a separate second mortgage to cover the gap. This is the most complex, but it is how a lot of assumptions actually get done. The key is to calculate your blended rate. So the average across both loans, even if your second loan is at eight or 9%, your blended rate of them combined comes out to maybe four and a half to 5%, but you need to make sure your property is being going to be able to cover both of those payments too. And a lot of times lenders restrict getting a second mortgage on a property, but there are options out there.

Tony Robinson:
And then option three is seller financing. Some motivated sellers will carry a portion of that equity as a private loan, meaning you pay them back directly over time. This is especially worth asking about on homes that have been sitting on the market for a while.

Ashley Kehr:
Okay. Now the sweet spot. The best assumptions are properties where the equity gap is actually manageable. That usually means sellers who bought in 2020, 2021 or 2022 where they have that great interest rate. But maybe they didn’t put a lot of money down and are in markets where the appreciation is moderate, where there’s not a lot of growth right now. Maybe they don’t have a lot of that gap, a lot of equity built into the property. So the longer someone has owned and the hotter the market, the bigger the gap you’re actually going to have.

Tony Robinson:
If you’re running the math and the blended rate comes out to 6% or higher, the savings start to shrink and the added complexity may not be worth it. So use the blended rate as your gut check and it might even be beneficial to start reaching out to those lenders who will take that second lien position before you get too far down the rabbit hole of doing all this work because if you can lock someone in and you already know what their rate is on that second mortgage, now you can do that math more effectively upfront to understand what that blended rate might be as you’re shopping for some of these assumable loans. So now that we talked about all these other elements, let’s talk about how to actually find these listings. And Ashley and I were talking before we recorded and she like blew my mind with some of the stuff that she found on her side.
So I’m excited to share this with you guys. But 98% of people, even the sellers, don’t know that their mortgages are actually assumable. So that’s where the problem is. So you will almost never find the listing on Zillow that has been properly tagged as assumable. The seller doesn’t know it. The agent often doesn’t know it. And so nobody’s putting it into the listing, but this actually creates an opportunity. If you know how to find these properties, then you have an edge over almost every other buyer.

Ashley Kehr:
So let’s go through the step-by-step process of how to actually get this deal done of assuming a property. So first you need to find a property with an assumable loan. So there’s different platforms that you can actually use that tell you this information. And one is rome.com. Another is assumelist.com. And these are websites that specifically look for these properties with assumable loans on them. You can also use different resources like PropStream and you can filter. Sometimes they’ll have that information and that data if a property is a VA loan or an FHA loan.

Tony Robinson:
So then step two is to confirm assumability with your actual servicer. Now, the seller cannot give you details directly due to privacy laws. The seller has to initiate the request with their servicer first to confirm the loan is assumable, get the current balance and authorize a process to start.

Ashley Kehr:
And step three is you make your offer with the assumable loan built in. So you’re going to include an assumption contingency in the offer. So this is saying that you will purchase the property if it’s contingent on you actually assuming the loan. So this means that their lender will approve you to actually take over the loan. So that way, if you don’t get approved, you have that option to be able to back out of the deal.

Tony Robinson:
And then step number four is to apply with the servicer directly. Unlike a normal mortgage where you shop lenders, here you’re going to apply directly with the seller’s existing servicers since they hold the debt. So you don’t get to choose who you work with. You’re just bringing your full financial package, pay stubs, tax returns, bank statements, credit pull, the whole thing, and you’re taking it to that servicer. So it looks very similar to a new mortgage application.

Ashley Kehr:
Then step five, underwriting and approval. So this is where they’re going to look at you. They should have all the information they need on the property. They could request a new appraisal in some circumstances to make sure that the property hasn’t become super dilapidated and actually isn’t worth that. But most of the time that doesn’t happen. It is just they look at you and they qualify you. It can take 45 days to actually do this process to approve you, but sometimes it could take up to 60 to 90 days. So just make sure you’re putting that into your contract too. That closing may take a little bit longer if you’re in a state where maybe it moves faster. New York, this is typical anyways, so not really a big deal.

Tony Robinson:
And then step six is actually closed. So at closing, you sign the assumption documents, the seller is officially released from the mortgage and you take over as the borrower. So the transfer is a pretty normal process. The mortgage now shows on your credit report just like any other home loan. Now one big thing to call out, and this is actually a good point for a lot of you guys that are listening, is that the closing costs on the assumable mortgages are oftentimes cheaper than a new mortgage. For FHA, the assumption fee is up to $1,800. For a VA loan, it’s 0.5% of the remaining loan balance plus some small processing fees, usually a couple hundred bucks there. You compare that to the two to sometimes 3% that you might get on closing costs for usual transaction and you’re saving quite a bit here.

Ashley Kehr:
We’re going to take a short break, but when we come back, we’re going to talk about some of the pitfalls and cons of actually doing an assumable loan. We’ll be right back. Okay, welcome back. So yes, this sounds great. This sounds exciting, but we wouldn’t be doing our due diligence if we didn’t warn you of some things to be cautious of when actually doing an assumable loan. So the first is just this proces can be slow and painful and frustrating. So just make sure you’re baking that into your contingency, into your contract that you have the time to actually go through this process because it can be a slow and painful process, but worth it in the long run if you are able to get that lower interest rate to assume their loan.

Tony Robinson:
One borrower profile by MPR was sold that there were 1,500 people ahead of him and his servicers assume assumption processing queue and he didn’t hear anything back for months. So just to give you guys some context, this is not for the faint of heart, but the good deals are usually sometimes the hardest ones to get. So if you can stick it through, have the right mindset going into it, that’s how you find the good deals.

Ashley Kehr:
And just continuously follow up, follow up, follow up, follow up ask if they need anything, not saying, “Hey, what’s going on with my loan? Give me an update.” It could be just be more like, this is what I usually do is, “Hey, just want to check in if you needed anything from me. ” Flipping a little mindset that I’m holding them up, let me know what I need to give us to this, not holding it up anymore, even though it’s usually the other way around that they’re waiting to do something.

Tony Robinson:
For sure. And sometimes you just got to stay in control over your own loan. I just did a HELOC on my primary residence and luckily I’ve gone through this transaction enough times where I was talking with the transaction coordinator at the credit union where I got the line of credit from and she was just super slow getting the information back from escrow. And I saw the escrow company in one of the email threads she sent me. I just called them myself and I said, “Hey, here’s what I’m waiting on. What do you need?” And within a day I was able to solve what they were waiting on. Whereas before we have this person in the middle that was extending everything. So be in the driver’s seat, but it’s important to know. Now the other piece here is we’ve mentioned this before, but just to reiterate, the USDA loan is off limits for investors.
So we just want to say this clearly, if you are assuming a USDA loan, it has to be your primary residence. This is not a rental property play, right? Six to the FHA or VA loan if you’re looking for an investment property.

Ashley Kehr:
Okay. So the next thing is to actually check your math before you fall in love or get excited about an assumable loan. So even though the headline is exciting that you could get this low rate, make sure you actually run the numbers on the deal and don’t get too focused. And how are you going to fill the gap? What does that blended rate look like? Where is that capital coming from? Is it a line of credit? Is it cash? And make sure the numbers still pencil out that even if you’re putting in a large capital infusion of money, what is your cash on cash return going to be on the property? So don’t get too focused on just what the low interest rate is and what the monthly payment is going to be just for that assumable loan.

Tony Robinson:
All right guys, we covered a lot in today’s episode and hopefully you got some insight into not only what an assumable mortgage is, but the power behind it, why it’s so beneficial and how to hopefully go find your first one. So let’s just quickly recap what we’ve discussed so far. So first, an assumable mortgage lets you take over a seller’s existing loan at their original rates, balance and terms. Only FHA, VA and USCA loans are assumable, conventional loans almost never are. And there are millions and millions and millions of homes in the US right now with assumable mortgages below 5% and most sellers don’t even know that they have this. This is your edge. You do have to make sure you account for the equity gap. That’s the main challenge. You got to run the blended math on your rate and then the sweet spot of sellers who bought recently but don’t have a ton of equity built up, guys.
The process can take a long time to make sure you build in your patients. But if you guys can do all of those things, then you’re setting yourself up in a really strong position to hopefully find and close on an assumable mortgage at a really low rate.

Ashley Kehr:
And let’s start with where to find those deals. You can go to roam.com, assume list or assumable.io or just start when you’re looking at properties, you’re asking the agents, you’re asking the seller what type of loan that they have on the property and just trying to find out the information that way. Next, you can work with a real estate agent that actually has the knowledge of doing an assumption. Ask them if they’ve ever worked with somebody to figure out this process to negotiate that, especially if a seller is not even aware that this can be done for a property. If you’re going ahead and you have an agent that you work with that is already knowledgeable about assuming a loan, then they can help facilitate that conversation with the seller and be knowledgeable because that’s one thing I don’t like sometimes about negotiating a deal with an agent is that they’re really the middleman and they really need to understand, especially seller finance, things like that, they need to understand how it works for them to properly negotiate that for you inside of the deal.

Tony Robinson:
So one challenge for all of you that are listening, take what you’ve learned in today’s episode and just go out there and try and start searching on these different tools that we presented with you or to you to see if you can find anything. And if you do find something, start having that conversation. I was looking at some of these websites where we were on here and you’ve got to sign up for some Rome, you’ve got to create a profile, but there’s houses listed, assume list, same thing. Just go out there and start talking to folks. Call the folks that have these listings and just ask questions. And the more you ask, the more knowledge you gain, the more confidence you build. And hopefully you’ll get to a point where, man, I’ve talked to five or six different agents. I think I got a good sense here.
Let me try and submit an offer on one of these and we’ll see what happens.

Ashley Kehr:
Well, thank you guys so much for listening to this week’s episode of Real Estate Rookie. If you’ve done an assumable loan, maybe you’ve sold a property with it or you’ve bought one comment below, tell us about the deal and how it worked out for you. I’m Ashley. He’s Tony. I’ll se you guys on the next episode of Real Estate Ricky.

 

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